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Bullfrogs, Movie Sets & a SWAT Raid: Georgia EH Director Galen Baxter | Live from GEHA 2026
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In this episode of Beyond Data Management, recorded live at GEHA 2026 on Lake Lanier, host Cameron Garrison sits down with Galen Baxter, Director of Environmental Health for the Georgia Department of Public Health.
Galen traces an unusual path into the field: high-school military enlistment as a linguist (Arabic instead of the Russian he wanted), a short stint teaching, then health education in Tift County before becoming an environmental health specialist. He moved from rural South Georgia counties to Lowndes County manager, state food program consultant and director, DeKalb pool program manager, Fulton County EH director, and finally the state director role he’s held for nearly four years.
The conversation covers what that job actually looks like in a state with 159 counties, coast-to-mountains geography, and a metro area that briefly became “Hollywood of the South.” Galen explains how Georgia adapted rules for large-scale movie catering operations (including a visit to the Halt and Catch Fire set), created identifying stickers for production food trucks, and handled craft services versus full catering.
He also talks about the political side of state-level advocacy, working with leadership that values environmental health, the challenge of recruiting into a “hidden profession,” internships with CDC and NEHA, and two inspection stories that stuck: live bullfrogs in a restaurant cooler and a night inspection that arrived with SWAT, ATF, and DEA.
Special thanks to GEHA for inviting us to do the show live from Lake Lanier Resort.
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Atlanta was essentially the Hollywood of the South. We had to figure out how to accommodate the the movie catering industry. That was a lot of fun. We actually got to go out um to some movie sets uh to take a look at their operations and see how they work, and then we were able to incorporate that into our rules and regulations. There's a cooler of bullfrogs in the kitchen. Live bullfrogs. Oh, they're still like croaking. Yeah, they were live. And I was like, oh, okay. Another experience was um doing a night inspection, and we ended up going with the local SWAT team, the fire, uh, everybody, the ATF, the DA, I mean, they were all there. We're looking for the owner. Well, they had taken him upstairs into his office, and so we go up there to try to, you know, because we still have to go over the inspection report with the poor guy.
SPEAKER_01I think he I think he ended up with a 70 or 72, but anyway, I It was probably not even in the top three worst things that happened to him that night, I would guess.
SPEAKER_02Exactly.
SPEAKER_01The list of agencies you mentioned that were with you.
SPEAKER_02Yes, yes, and so I felt really bad because as we're trying to get him to sign the inspection report, they are putting him in handcuffs and he is coming down the stairs. And so we're like, hey, sir, you know, if we go over this inspection, please work right exactly going over all the violations as he's coming down the stairs.
SPEAKER_01Uh here in uh Georgia at the G-Hot Conference 2026. It's been a pleasure to sit here. We have a lot of great conversations and really been excited about the conversation we're gonna have here next uh because fascinating uh journey and uh a big job to Galen Baxter. You are the director in the big chair for the state of Georgia GDPH, right?
SPEAKER_02Yes. Well, for environmental health.
SPEAKER_01That's enough, right? You don't want the clinical side. No.
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_01So um how but you actually there's so many things I want to ask you, um, but you uh you actually did it. You went up through the process, right? You I believe you started out at one of the county departments in one of the districts at the local level, didn't you?
SPEAKER_02Yes, I did. So I initially started um working for the Tiff County Health Department as a um working with the the TIFTEN Health Clinic as a health educator. And so, but prior to that I had been eyeballing environmental health because um I knew, you know, from once I finished uh college that I wanted to work in a field for the government using my biology degree. And so I was trying to figure out, okay, what could I do with that? And the environmental health jobs, you know, kept coming up, Department of Agriculture kept coming up, um, you know, Department of Natural Resources jobs were were coming up. So I was looking, you know, kind of through all three of those, and um, but I had just uh spent a year teaching high school um in Coffee County, and it, you know, since I didn't have a teaching degree, I was on uh, you know, program where you could teach um but you still had to pass all the you know exams and do all the things like that. So when it came time to renew my contract, I had not been able to complete the praxis at that point. So I was like, okay, you know what, teaching is not for me anyway. I really don't want to do this this one. Yeah, it takes a special calling, doesn't it? Yes, it does, yes. So anyway, um about it took about, I don't know, a year a later, uh, where I found the job as um, you know, working in the teen clinic as a health educator. And I thought, okay, well this this sounds interesting. So I did that for about a year, year and a half, and um then the uh there was a position as an environmental health specialist that opened up and I thought, okay, well let me let me go ahead and try to apply for that. So I did and was hired on. So I worked in Tiff County for um a few months and then um transferred down to Lowndes County, where's the Val d'Asta District, and uh worked there. Started out as an EHS one. I worked in two counties, um, you know, did kind of a generalist, did everything, and then uh moved into the county manager position and uh stayed in that role for about four years. And um so then the county manager, county position. The county manager for for the environmental health. Or environmental health, okay. In Lowndes County, uh-huh. And um, so during that time there was an opening uh that came open at the state office um in Atlanta, and um it was for the position of the food service program director, and then there was uh also a food program consultant position that you know works under the food program director. So I applied for both, and um it turned out that one of the existing program directors, I mean uh program consultants naturally moved into that position. If you wanted it, yeah, and which which you know it was it was good because I I would not have been ready at that point. But um, so I I worked under him for uh a couple of years as a food program consultant, and um then a position came open in DeCab County. They needed a uh pool program manager, and so it was a little bit more money, and I thought, okay, and so I I went over there and worked for a year. Uh so I've got fully immersed in swimming pools at that point, and um about almost a year to the day, the food program director position came open back at the state office again. So I applied for that and uh ended up moving back to the state office. So I did that for about four and a half years, and um then you know COVID hit during that time, and so we were coming on the tail end of COVID, and the um environmental health director position for Fulton came open, and you know, in my role working in the food program at the state office, we had done a lot of work with Fulton, and Fulton was unique in many aspects. They they are, aren't they? Yes, and so not not only with the fact that they have more restaurants than anybody else in in the state, but part of it was too they were in the process of coming under DPH. They had been an independent the state of Fulton, so to speak, previously, right? Yeah, so they were actually Fulton County employees, and so they were in the process of coming under DPH and becoming Fulton County Board of Health employees. And I thought, you know, we've we've been working with them um, you know, this whole time trying to you know bring them up to speed with everything. I may have an opportunity to go over there and and make it better, you know, and work with them. So I applied to, you know, as the uh environmental health director for Fulton County and got that job. So and was loving it.
SPEAKER_01I absolutely loved that job. That's a very that's a big challenging department to run, right? Very complex compared to like uh South Georgia, for example.
SPEAKER_02Yes, yes, many more unique things. Well, I mean your rural counties obviously have a lot of the septic systems in South Georgia are very complex. Yes, and then you move up to you know the metro areas and you have a whole different, you know, thing. So it was very, very challenging and it was it was never a a dull moment. Something going on constantly.
SPEAKER_01And a lot of media glare too in Fulham County, right? WSB, like you've got big, big legacy media f uh outlets there.
SPEAKER_02Yes, and plus they you know they do they're more engaged with new stories about restaurant inspections.
SPEAKER_01They want to put the scores on TV, don't they?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, they do, they do. And with the West Nile virus, positive mosquito pools constantly coming up, you know, those were big stories all the time. So there was a lot going on. And um, but anyway, so then um the the state environmental health director position came open, and um so I thought, okay, well, um let me let me try that, you know. So I applied for that job and was was hired there. And so I I will say, you know, it's it's going on almost exactly four years now that I've been in this role, and um it was kind of what I thought it was gonna be, but there was a whole another side that I didn't really understand completely, and so it's really stretched, you know, my my environmental health uh experience. And I I've was not I don't think I was expecting it to be quite so political, but not in a bad way. I mean it's it's I love being in a position where I can advocate for the program. And you know, if if something's coming up, and I'm very fortunate to be working with Dr. Toomey. She loves environmental health and she always has an ear available if anything comes up, so I'm very grateful for her. It's a big deal. Yes, and everyone on the uh environmental health or excuse me on the um executive leadership team, they've you know they've been really good there. Yes.
SPEAKER_01So I and yeah, because it there is a political element though, right? Because like in reality, like you got issues you kind of take to the legislature. Like there's there's things that happen at the state level that somebody's gotta shepherd them and and spearhead it. And also, you know, Georgia's an interesting state, 159 counties. Yes, and it's got everything. It's actually a little microcosm of America. You've got coasts, you've got mountains, you've got everything here. And uh every there's a that's a lot of constituencies to keep under one umbrella, isn't it?
SPEAKER_02Yes, and just like you said, every part of the state has unique geographic features, which have the unique, you know, requirements within the septic program, and then with your heavily metro, you know, populated metro areas, you have a lot of folks coming from, you know, California and culturally different. Culturally different. They bring all these new and innovative ideas to these areas, and so then we have to be you know figure out okay, well, how are we gonna make them fit into our rules and regulations? And a prime example of that is uh, you know, a few years ago Atlanta was essentially the Hollywood of the South.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yes, and you'd see it on everything. In fact, Walking Dead famously from television, like, oh, every was Atlanta, Georgia.
SPEAKER_02And so we had to figure out how to accommodate the the movie catering industry. Really? And yes, and so that was a lot of fun. We actually got to go out um to some movie sets uh to take a look at their operations and see how they work, and then we were able to incorporate that into our rules and regulations. Really cool. What sets did you go on? At the time I didn't know what the uh show was, but come to find out later it was Halt and Catch Fire.
SPEAKER_01And so yeah, it's like one of the streaming services, I think, and has that one now, or Netflix, I think it was.
SPEAKER_02Netflix, yeah. Yeah. Okay. We were able to go out and you know, watch them film a scene and everything, but I at the time I didn't know any any who was in it or not.
SPEAKER_01What are what were the unique what what's what was like what's really unique about that industry that you had to sort of figure out, okay, how are we going to address and handle this?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's a good question. So one of the the major things I think is the fact that the way these these uh operations work, they have these huge catering trucks, or they'll set up under tents and they'll go out to the set, and sometimes they're out in the middle of, you know, nowhere. And a lot of times they're they're feeding hundreds of people out of these operations.
SPEAKER_01Seriously, these productions have more people than than than I think the general public can imagine, right? That's big set.
SPEAKER_02Yes, there's a lot that goes on. So one of the challenges that you know we found that they were facing was when you have a typical mobile unit or a catering operation, they can usually, after they do the little event, they can take it back and wash their dishes and things like that. Here it was like they were gonna have to set up some kind of a a field sink, essentially almost like a military operation where they could wash, rinse, and sanitize what they had. They had, you know, huge refrigerated trucks that they were bringing in.
SPEAKER_01So full three compartment out in the field.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. Or or you know, basins that they were having to set up. So it was just the the scale of operation was so large and they didn't have the the convenience of being able to run back to their base because they could be anywhere in the state operating.
SPEAKER_01Right, right. So uh did how does that work? Is that a do you permit how did you handle that? Do you permit the food service for a for a production or like how does how does that work from a normal normal workflow of regulatory?
SPEAKER_02So they fell into the catering per so they would be permitted as a caterer, yeah. And then there was a whole nother aspect that we didn't realize, it was called craft services. And that's a different operation altogether. And so we had to kind of figure out how to work with them. And um, but the the main thing was they're more like pre-packaged kind of food, and and so it wasn't really it it would depend on their operation as to whether or not they needed to be permitted.
SPEAKER_01Whether it's coffee, grab and go donuts or more fancy stuff. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's it's that's really interesting. Did you end up with the it work out well? They end up end up with a good relationship because you know, you think Hollywood people come in, they're kind of like, got that swagger, right? How are how difficult were some of the just generally to deal with in those organizations?
SPEAKER_02Um, I would say for the most part, we had good we had a good relation. We ended up, you know, again, at before the rule changed to allow mobile trucks to go anywhere in the state, these these catering trucks were driving all over the state. And so a lot of our staff started thinking, well, wait a minute, that's a mobile truck. What are they doing here? You know. And so we we agreed, it's like, look, most of these sets are closed. There's really no reason to go out there to bother them unless we get a complaint, and then you can go do an inspection. But you know, we can inspect everything at their base of operation. And we created these little stickers that they could put on their truck that look like a little camera so people would know that that's a media food truck. Yeah, well, yeah, or a catering uh movie catering truck.
SPEAKER_01So that's that's a lot funny. You mentioned like military operations, so a big top big topic jump, but I couldn't help but notice uh, you know, and just sort of reading you know some of the background they sent me on you is that you you were in the military. First of all, thank you for your service. But you were you were like you were did you speak Arabic? Did I did I did I get the correct information?
SPEAKER_02Yes, and and so the story behind that is is kind of crazy. When I actually joined the military before I graduated high school, I was 17. My parents had to uh sign, you know, agree for me to join, but I had to finish out my senior year. And once I did, um immediately went to basic. My goal was to actually, I wanted to be a Russian linguist and I wanted to kind of work in the CIA, you know, I want to do all that stuff. Well, before I finished basic training, um, because I had joined in 1990, uh, the Gulf War broke out. First Gulf War. And so because I had scored so high on what they call the the D Lab, the defense language aptitude battery test, everybody who had scored a certain score in higher, they're like, Oh, you're going into Arabic. And so I was like, I did not want to learn Arabic. I was not interested in Arabic. I wanted to learn Russian. But um anyway, so that I ended up doing that. It took, you know, 63 weeks to learn Arabic. Yeah. Mandarin Chinese is the hardest language, Arabic is the second hardest language. Wow. So it was, you know, it was not my love to to learn that, but I, you know, I did what I could. And then I left that and had to go to um Texas for my uh MOS training, which was the electronic warfare signals intelligence analyst job. And I left there. Then I had to go to do more training in Massachusetts for six weeks to learn how to do my job in the field. And um anyway, so I finally got stationed at Fort Stewart, and um then all my friends had gone to NSA. They were working in air conditioned buildings and you know, doing all the things that I wanted to do. But no, I was stuck out at Fort Stewart going out to the woods all the time, setting up equipment that didn't work all the time. And so, you know, I I was fortunate that the sergeant major pulled me and wanted me to be uh the driver of the command section. So the I drove for him. I had um a couple of privates that worked for me that drove for the major and the lieutenant colonel. So I was able to go and and get um promoted to an E5, which is sergeant, before I got out. And um, but when it came time to re-enlist, I looked at him and I was like, well, where can I go? You know.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And they said, Oh no, we need you to stay here. And I said, you know what? Never mind. I'm done, I've done my four years.
SPEAKER_01So you so it's funny, so you you would have like you could have been a spook, right?
SPEAKER_02Like, yeah, yeah, I could have, I could have.
SPEAKER_01Well, you came along at that interesting time, like you wanted to do Russian, but like that's right at the time, right, where the wall is about to fall, like the Cold War's ending, and we thought at the end of history talk, and we then we pivoted to the Middle East. So like I um but you know what's funny how the more things change, the more they stay the same. They are I think desperately looking for people for Russian now.
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_01Uh as you know, things uh things evolve over the years. So did you enjoy you know it sounds like it, you know, it was a lot of hard work at Fort Stewart and it was hot. So you so you're fluent in Arabic, read and write.
SPEAKER_02I haven't spoken or written or read seriously Arabic in about 25 years. So I as I hear people talking, it some words start coming back to me. Familiar. Yeah, and if I sit down and I try to, you know, read it, then I can recognize some words. So I I plan to go back and you know, now that they have all these different um, you know, language, like duolingual things, sit down and see if I can see where you are? Yeah, to kind of see where I am, see if I can get back into speaking it, reading it. 63 weeks, I bet most of it stuck. A lot of it did.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it has to, right? And so what what year did you get out of the military? Uh 1994. 94. Okay, so you know, I you you said you up earlier you had always had your eye on environmental health. Interesting. Um, because that'd like that's you could have done so many different things besides environmental health with that background. Like there's so many, I think even in the mid-90s, there's still contractors and things, right? That was a very you had a very valuable set of skills. Um and so what drew you to EH?
SPEAKER_02So again, this is a crazy story. Um, once I got out of the military, I moved back to Texas and um stayed there for a little while. Um my ex was living there and uh she was in the Air Force. And so I kind of piddled around. I didn't really know what I wanted to do, you know, and I just kind of kept options open or whatever. But then she got transferred to Colorado and um once I got there, I was like, you know what, I think I'm ready to go back to school. And at the time I was thinking, maybe, you know, I'd like to be a chiropractor or a physical therapist. I thought, you know, that that sounded really appealing. And um so I started, you know, in school and was focusing on trying to major in biology. And uh once I got, you know, done with school and everything, I still wasn't real sure what I wanted to do. But at that time I had, you know, got married, I met my wife, we we got married, broke up with my ex. And uh so we decided to move back to Georgia. And um at when I got here, it was like, okay, you know, jobs are are not particularly available, which is kind of how I ended up teaching, but I knew that I I wanted to work for the government, so I was thinking either EPA, uh, EPD, you know, Department of Ag or something using my biology degree. You had the right degree. Yes, and so I thought, okay, but then I started seeing environmental health, and I really wasn't sure what they did, but once I I knew that there was something about it that I wanted to, you know, invent to learn more about. And at that time, way back then, you know, you you would take a test to before you got a job with the state. And so I kept taking the test and I would see, you know, and read a little bit more about environmental health, and I was like, okay, you know, this is uh I think this is kind of what I want to wanna follow up on. And uh so that's kind of how I got drawn into that. Um but it was funny because after I started it w wasn't quite what I thought it was gonna be. And I remember going out with my supervisor at the time and he was taking me out to uh do a a boring for a septic permit. And he had his auger, you know, and he we walk out in the middle of this field and and he starts boring a hole. And I was watching him. And I was like, what are you what are you doing? What what are we doing? And so he was trying to tell me, you know, explain to me about the septic system. And we have to, you know, make sure that the soil's gonna be okay and all, you know, all this stuff. So I'm just watching him. He keeps pulling these bucket fulls of dirt out and out of his auger. And he's, you know, looking at it and I'm like, what are you looking for? You know, so I was trying to, you know, see what he was doing. And like really analyzing dirt here. Yeah, exactly. And so, you know, and I keep looking in the hole. I'm like, okay, what, you know. And I thought to myself at that point, I said, you know what, I have made a mistake. I I I don't know that I understand exactly what's going on. But anyway, so we, you know, I we get back to the office and I'm still thinking, okay, I don't know, I don't know. But then we go on a food inspection and then we start doing some of the other stuff. And I was like, okay, no, I get it now. I love this. Yeah. So that's kind of how, you know, it is evolved.
SPEAKER_01You know, you you said you you know you didn't quite know when you first got involved. Like I feel like we've talked to a lot of people about this, that EH does such important work, but it's almost like they haven't they've been branded or marketed well. Um and you know, I I know that sounds weird because government agencies, you know, in technically speaking, aren't looking for marketing, but in a media-driven culture, you know, we don't have a lot of people young folks that are like, I want to be a health inspector when I grow up. And I don't think it's because I I think a lot more would if they had been exposed to and understood, like you said, food inspections. I think that would hook a lot of people. Yeah, you know, going in. You know, if you're a puzzle solver or you like to be very particular, I really like that. But also with recruiting now for the next generation, we always need more people to do the job. But what is maybe some things you're trying to do as state director, what what should the profession be doing to build that pipeline more? Because visibility is currency in in this modern era.
SPEAKER_02That is very true, yeah. So I'm glad you asked that question. Um, one of the things that we are trying to do, and it's happening more, you know, at the local level, is um uh going out and speaking to you know high schools or colleges, try to let them know what we do. But the challenge with that is because we are short staffed and industry is growing and people are building homes that you know are we're just so busy, it's hard to you know carve out that time to get that kind of exposure. And so, you know, I joked in the past that you know environmental health is kind of the the silent arm of public health because we are we we work you know every day behind the scenes and we're just doing our job and hidden profession in so many ways. And so I don't think we want to draw I think people feel like if we draw a lot of attention to ourselves and what we're doing, you know, it may we may get because usually when we end up in the news, sometimes it's on a bad negative side, yeah. Right. So I think people kind of tend to shy away from you know wanting to to get out there and you know talk about all we do, but but every opportunity, I know there's a lot of colleges um that are doing more interns, and so we are starting to get more interns that are working with us, and some of them go on to you know become full-time environmental health specialists once they finish their program. Uh the CDC has a lot of uh, you know, they work with some interns and fellows, and so we've had another.
SPEAKER_01And Nihas student and internship program has really actually been growing as well. They had a ton of actual students at the conference in Kansas City a few weeks ago, too.
SPEAKER_02So they they and we've had a few of those as well, especially in our vector surveillance um work. And so yeah, they've they've been using that a lot because you know I I mentioned in my talk earlier that with the the funding, you know, that was cut, that did hit our vector surveillance program pretty hard. And so she's been able to or um Dr. Kelly's been able to leverage that with interns.
SPEAKER_01And not have the drop-off be as harsh. Yeah, yeah. So you've gone from smaller counties in southern Georgia to Fulton, which is a behemoth county, not just in Georgia, but nationally. You know, it's it's one of the big complex urban counties in the country. You've been in a lot of restaurants, right? So you don't have to, but like what's stuff that sticks in your mind? Like you were talking about the borehole, and you're like, dude, why are you digging a hole in this field? Um, and playing with the dirt. Um anything pops to mind from an at restaurant inspection that you're like, that's gonna stay with me forever. Oh.
SPEAKER_02Let's see.
SPEAKER_01You don't have to use any names, so like you could do anonymous.
SPEAKER_02Um there there's been a couple of experiences, um, and it it both happened in the metro areas. Now I'm not gonna name the counties because you know it the metro encompasses quite a large uh area. But um I remember there was when I first came to the state working as a food program consultant, I wanted to get out and see, you know, some unique things around in the area. And um, so I did go to um a certain part of the metro area that has uh some you know culturally diverse uh restaurants, and so some of those have been challenging just because of the different types of preparation, food preparation, menu items, things like that. And so we're we're walking through one of these restaurants and um there's a cooler of bullfrogs in the kitchen. Live bullfrogs. Oh, they're still like croaking. Yeah, they were live, and I was like, oh, okay. So clearly they had you know frog legs on the menu, but I was like, okay, that was I was not very fresh for not expecting to see that. Yeah, so that was one um that was one experience. Another experience was um doing a night inspection, and we ended up going with the local SWAT team, the fire, uh, everybody, the ATF, the DEA, I mean they were all there. And so we go in, and turns out, you know, they were there because this guy clearly had some issues with the law, but he also was, you know, his he was running a bar without an alcohol license.
SPEAKER_01Oh wow, that's a they'll get you for that.
SPEAKER_02Oh no liquor license. No kidding, and so we the kitchen was only about as big as this space right here. And so there were three of us that went in. We quickly were looking around, you know, to do the inspection. We're looking for the owner. Well, they had taken him upstairs into his office, and so we go up there to try to, you know, because we still have to go over the inspection report with the poor guy.
SPEAKER_01I think he I think he ended up with a 70 or 72, but anyway, I was probably not even in the top three worst things that happened to him that night, I would guess. Exactly. The list of agencies you mentioned that were with you.
SPEAKER_02Yes, yes, and so I felt really bad because as we're trying to get him to sign the inspection report, they are putting him in handcuffs and he is coming down the stairs. And so we're like, hey, sir, you know, here we we go over this inspection. Right, exactly. Going over all the violations as he's coming down the stairs. So that was that was kind of unique. But yeah, I would say those those are two of uh, you know, that kind of stuck in that.
SPEAKER_01That one's all time. Yes. Like that's amazing. Like, did they like kick the door in or like how did the because that sounds like if FBI's there, they're probably all strapped up, ready to go.
SPEAKER_02They made us wait outside and they said we will call you in when we're ready. And was like, okay, so we're standing out in the middle of the street, you know, at night, and all these cars are parked in the middle of the the road. And so he they went in. I'd say we probably waited outside about maybe five or ten minutes, and then wow, yeah, they had turned all the lights on. They're like, okay, yeah, you can come in now. It's like okay. It's clear, it's clear, right?
SPEAKER_01Galen, I know you've got busy, busy obligations, not just every day, but here at the conference. Thanks for spending a few times, uh, some time with us here because I really appreciate it. And also I know that you guys are under a really big project now. You're monetizing your data system. And so um, as that ends up going on, maybe we'll have you back sometime in the future and okay, find out lessons learned or yeah, or get more stories. So something tells me there's a lot more where that came from. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Yes, sir. Galen Baxter, director for environmental health for the state of Georgia. Uh, that'll do it for now. Here from Gha at Lakelanier, Gha 2026, for all of us here at Beyond Data Management Podcast, powered as always by HS GovTech. I'm Cameron Garrison. We'll see you next time.